One of your talents is helping men hold space for women’s emotional expression. You call it UPLVL. What are the basic tenets of your scripted framework, and why do you focus on this?
[00:00:00] So you spend a lot of time on your up level framework, which I’m learning more and more about. Yes. And I just ordered your book on Amazon actually. And um, what I’ve noticed that’s really powerful about what you’re teaching is how you teach a man to hold a woman’s emotion. Yes. And that’s a lot like the work of day, the data.
Yes. Who talks about the man is the riverbanks and the woman is the raging frothing wild water. But how do you differ what you teach to the concept that David teaches around that? Like where would you say, ah, that’s kind of bullshit, or old school, here’s what’s really, what really needs to be done?
I think David is talking on a high level, sort of ethereal mode so that men can just begin to put their toe into that.
Space. Yeah. I really take men down to the earth. Good. Of the actual ceremony of holding space. Yeah. So there are steps. There’s like, you must say this and then this, and then how do you soothe this woman? Mm-hmm. And you wanna literally get her down to a level zero. Mm-hmm. And so you’re [00:01:00] going to take a journey.
Mm-hmm. I really like up level ’cause I needed it in order to save my marriage. Yeah. You understand? Yes. I wrote it because my husband did not want me to be anything but happy. Yeah. Right. All the time. Yeah. And I’m like, that’s not possible for any human. Mm-hmm. If I’m angry, it doesn’t mean something about you.
Mm-hmm. If I’m sad, it doesn’t mean something about you. Yeah. And he was taking everything personal. Yes. So that’s where it came from.
I think I married my husband because of his nervous system and how it made my nervous system feel. How was that relaxed. He is so calm and grounded. I can
read. Yes.
And he’s just like.
Is that all you got? Because I can handle more. And I’m like, wow, that
is it. Yes.
That’s
what I’m talking about. That’s the sexiest thing. Fuck yeah. But most of the men who come to me, their nervous system is everywhere. I know. And then they are super in the emotion as well. Mm-hmm. Yeah. You know, as soon as you get emotional, they’ll get bigger emotional right back.
Yeah. And it’s like [00:02:00] these are two animals fighting. Yeah. And we need, if y’all are gonna be two animals. We need one at a time. Yeah. Turns and then like they’re both in containers. Yeah. You know, you don’t bring a tiger in your living room and let ’em put that tiger in a container if you’re gonna bring ’em in this house.
Yeah. So that’s it. It really helps couples to have the arguments they used to have. Yeah. In such a pleasurable, tantric, sensual way. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Rage can be very sensual. Yes.
Well, and just the freedom to rage. Yes. And know that your husband can hold that and not be ruffled by it. That’s right. It allows you to kind of move through it so much more quickly.
Yes. And to when you are allowed as a woman. Get pissed off Yes. About whatever. Yes. And not have repercussions or not. I don’t wanna be a good girl. No, I wanna be a bad
girl. Well, it’s similar to Kink or BDSM. Yeah. In that it is a ceremonial practice of space holding. Yeah. So I just, I, I love it. And what we’ve done with it is just [00:03:00] very indigenous.
Yeah. It’s very rich. I like that. And my husband’s, I don’t date anybody who doesn’t know how to hold space for my emotion. Right. Amen.
