[00:00:00] We both probably have similar paths, but they, um, diverge along lines of probably race, class and all other, you know, there’s a few other places where they diverge. For me, finding out that I could be a sexually free woman mm-hmm. And be sovereign mm-hmm. Was not until maybe I was 35 years old. Oh, you, I didn’t even know that was possible.
Oh,
you went, you, you did it sooner than I did it. What? Yeah.
Oh my goodness. Yeah. Right. Well, I know for me, in my youth. You know, moving my body and being connected to my body Yeah. Was a part of my culture. Oh, so that. Part of sensuality was there, but the shame you understand and oh, don’t do that. You a freak, you a hoe, you a slut, uhhuh.
So, you know, getting past that took till hours. God, I hope you’re a freak of hoe and a slut. Now, I think I’m, I could be, be
a freak of
SII be here. Okay, but that’s just moving to that state of sovereignty. Now, sovereignty, really, I didn’t. Feel it until I was about 39 or [00:01:00] 40 Uhhuh where I felt like I can do whatever I want with my body.
And it’s none of your business Uhhuh. It was not my husband’s business, not my parents’ business. No one’s business. Yeah. And I can feel good about it. There’s no guilt. No shame. So yeah, that was a long time to be on the earth without that sovereignty. Yeah. But the way that I did it is I studied tantra starting at maybe age 30.
Okay. And then of course, you know, I’m in an initiated priestess. So those spiritual paths that weren’t even meant to be really sexual mm-hmm. Really turned on my freedom mm-hmm. And my sexuality. Mm-hmm. Because I realized that I am God. Mm-hmm. I am like mm-hmm. I am one with source. Yeah. It’s not somebody somewhere judging me.
Mm-hmm. So letting all of that go and now being 50 years old, I just feel like girls need it younger. Like, let’s move that age down. Definitely. For our, for, for our daughters. Yeah.
Yeah. That’s fantastic. Um. My story was a little bit different. I was a slut right from the get [00:02:00] go. Mm-hmm. Like I was chasing little boys around on the playground, trying to lasso them with my jump rope, and I hooed religion very early, so I didn’t have to take that kind of like tantric spiritual path to my sexuality.
Wow. Uh, because I think in some ways that’s a reaction mm-hmm. To religious repression. It is. And because of some things that we talked about in another one of our, our, our, our conversations. Mm-hmm. You know, I, I saw. Through how fake people who pretended to be religious could be Oh. And realized that that was not something that I wanted running in my world, even as a, a little kid.
Mm-hmm. You know, we’ve both probably always been very strong women. I think so, and I just keep getting stronger and loving that about myself. I left Christianity at 14. Mm-hmm. How old were you? I never was in it. Oh, look at you. You were free from the start. Yeah. So it was super easy to be slutty. Really?
Yeah. But that was my twenties. But by the time I was in my thirties, I, I kind of settled into that cultural, you know, paradigm of you’re the good girl, you’re the wife, you’re the mother. And it like, oh goodness. Killed my [00:03:00] sex life. It killed my sex life. Mm-hmm. Um, and then I broke free of that. Forties, I started becoming multi-orgasmic.
Mm-hmm. I started having female ejaculatory experiences. Mm-hmm. I started, I started then having, you know, having more partners Yes. And having a good time. Nice. And learning skills. Realizing that sex is a series of learned skills and then learning them. Mm-hmm. Studying orgasm. I’ve been studying orgasm.
Decades now. Yes. Because I’m interested in human orgasmic potential. Right. And I am the test case of how much a person can have pleasure, how much pleasure can a human body experience. But
even deeper, I, my, a part of my journey was learning that the way that women experience sensuality on the earth marks how the rivers will be.
Mm-hmm. If the rivers are polluted, if the oceans are having problems, if there’s massive weather issues. Yeah. This is symbolic of women and her. Access to her own orgasm. Mm-hmm. So, I mean, these conjoined spaces, I’m glad we got here. Yeah. Because [00:04:00] this is where women are headed. Yeah. And we’re gonna heal this place with our
sensuality.
One of the other things that I think is really important is that having really incredible orgasmic experiences, whether they’re created. By ourselves mm-hmm. Or by our lovers with us. Mm-hmm. Um, it gives you, like, I feel like the first time I really started having incredible orgasmic pleasure, it was like a taproot, like shut down outta ma and into the earth and it was like for food.
And I was like, Ooh, yes, it’s grounding. Ooh, it’s grounded you. And then when I started getting into these really massive, orgasmic experiences mm-hmm. Where I would almost, it would sometimes take me a day or two to come back to earth. Yeah. And you still glitch in the next day? I, I would. Yeah. You have Creos?
Yes, I would. I, I, I [00:05:00] felt finally for the first time what other people get through the path of things like meditation or religion, which is touching source or God or Gaia, but living as, but, but feeling how I’m connected to. Everything. Yes, everyone. Yes. That was really transcendental profound and confidence building.
Right. My sexuality has given me confidence. Confidence, and I think a part of it is the testosterone that is produced. Yes. From having good sex. Yes. Really helps women. Move into their
sovereignty. And so all we gotta do now is get them on board. That’s what we’re here for. Well, who we getting on board?
